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@jchelle - I think the issue here is that "MIN_RADIUS" and "MAX_RADIUS" don't really apply as the PTC documentation would suggest.
The values for MIN_RADIUS and MAX_RADIUS don't apply as "BEND" details - they only apply as "Design Rule" information, which does NOT impact the design or options in Creo. The Design Rules ONLY are used as a part of the "Design Rule Check" functionality, and don't impact the 3D geometry or modeling at all.
What this leads to is the idea that "bends can only be set to the specific Radius values set from the spec" (which is not necessarily a bad thing).
For example, if we use the following BEND properties in the catalog- the BEND is set as 145, with a MIN of 140 and MAX of 150.
Then this is what shows up in Creo:
From here, there is no way to edit the dimension to be anything other than 145 (at least, no easy way - editing the dimension value doesn't work as it would in other parts of Creo)
If we investigate the Linestock details, we can see that the BEND information is only applied as 'DesignRule' information. Also, if you DISABLE Spec-Driven Piping (set config.pro option 'piping_design_method' to 'user-driven'), you can see that 145 is the only applied value in the Bend Radius field.
All that being said, as described in the PTC Documentation, I think your solution here is to create multiple entries in the BEND File for a desired SIZE. If we create multiple options for the BEND Radius in the file like this:
Then this is what shows up in Creo:
So @JBoswell, that should hopefully fix your 'primary' issue? However, as your post mentioned, there is no way to adjust the pipe bend to a custom value BETWEEN the MIN and MAX, as the dimensions, as those are ONLY applied to the 'design rule' and not to the actual bend details.
One other thing to note - obviously this format is a bit strange because it implies the idea that each line in the BEND file could have its own MIN/MAX radius for design rules - however that isn't the case either. From our testing, the Design Rules always get applied using the properties using the 'first' row for that SIZE in the file. This makes sense, because the Linestock Feature gets created with a SIZE at the beginning when the Pipeline is created, but before a specific set of Bend details are pulled... so it just pulls the values from the first line it sees.
Hope this helps!
James Sullivan
@jchelle - I think the issue here is that "MIN_RADIUS" and "MAX_RADIUS" don't really apply as the PTC documentation would suggest.
The values for MIN_RADIUS and MAX_RADIUS don't apply as "BEND" details - they only apply as "Design Rule" information, which does NOT impact the design or options in Creo. The Design Rules ONLY are used as a part of the "Design Rule Check" functionality, and don't impact the 3D geometry or modeling at all.
What this leads to is the idea that "bends can only be set to the specific Radius values set from the spec" (which is not necessarily a bad thing).
For example, if we use the following BEND properties in the catalog- the BEND is set as 145, with a MIN of 140 and MAX of 150.
Then this is what shows up in Creo:
From here, there is no way to edit the dimension to be anything other than 145 (at least, no easy way - editing the dimension value doesn't work as it would in other parts of Creo)
If we investigate the Linestock details, we can see that the BEND information is only applied as 'DesignRule' information. Also, if you DISABLE Spec-Driven Piping (set config.pro option 'piping_design_method' to 'user-driven'), you can see that 145 is the only applied value in the Bend Radius field.
All that being said, as described in the PTC Documentation, I think your solution here is to create multiple entries in the BEND File for a desired SIZE. If we create multiple options for the BEND Radius in the file like this:
Then this is what shows up in Creo:
So @JBoswell, that should hopefully fix your 'primary' issue? However, as your post mentioned, there is no way to adjust the pipe bend to a custom value BETWEEN the MIN and MAX, as the dimensions, as those are ONLY applied to the 'design rule' and not to the actual bend details.
One other thing to note - obviously this format is a bit strange because it implies the idea that each line in the BEND file could have its own MIN/MAX radius for design rules - however that isn't the case either. From our testing, the Design Rules always get applied using the properties using the 'first' row for that SIZE in the file. This makes sense, because the Linestock Feature gets created with a SIZE at the beginning when the Pipeline is created, but before a specific set of Bend details are pulled... so it just pulls the values from the first line it sees.
Hope this helps!
James Sullivan
